Realitycheck, Your post echoes my feelings entirely I just sometimes feel he is playing a game with me to keep me sweet and life stable. We do get on and have fun and family time is always great but this THING underlies all of the good times so they can seem fake. I have learned to enjoy and appreciate the good times for what they are since I don't want his behaviour to taint everything in my life. We can and do even sit down and talk things through rationally but I always feel he is not being completely honest. He says he doesn't want to go there when I ask for any details he says therapist says its not good for his recovery to pick over the past The therapy which he goes to fortnightly he says has helped him but says he still can't trust himself he will never do it again so its hard to ask me to trust him when its all I want and I find that difficult despite him saying he wants not to do it and that he truly wants to recover. Details of the extent of recovery are elusive when questioned and full accountability seems beyond him at the moment . He talks of "one day at a time " -time is passing but I feel impatient for results and that I deserve more than that... He has had one to one therapy for almost 2 years now- there have been several blips along the way all of which have been discoveries by me and not by his own admission despite my need for complete truth and transparency. I feel I have been patient and supportive and he acknowledges this. Yet even after all this time still I am no wiser on the extent of his acting out or the frequency of it and the truth of how long its been going on. I don't want details of the acting out itself Paula s book has helped tremendously here I now understand about scab picking and the hurt that can come from revelations of the behaviour and the minute detail of it all. The trouble is I feel without the disclosure from him of the extent of it all( and how it has improved which he assures me it has) I can't put it all behind me and move on with our relationship which this THING aside is good and to some extent much better in terms of communication empathy towards me. Essentially how do I know for sure he wants to recover and how can I know that he is recovering ...